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==Geographic names==
==Geographic names==
See also [[Lingua Franca Nova administrative territorial entity class name]]
Examples taken from http://elefen.org/disionario/disionario.txt
Examples taken from http://elefen.org/disionario/disionario.txt


  lfn : eng : comment
  lfn : eng : comment
  Prusen : Prussia : Why Prusen? Does any of the source languages have this?
  Prusen : Prussia : Why Prusen? Does any of the source languages have this?
Isolas Falkland : Falkland Islands : ?Isolas Malvinas
Port-au-Prince : Port-au-Prince : ?speak as /prinke/
Rio de Colorado : Colorado River : ?Rio Colorado - none of the source languages uses "de"


===Graphems not in alphabet===
===Graphems not in alphabet===
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====sh====
====sh====
  Shanxi
  Shanxi
===Graphemes with uncommon application===
Marx : : ?Marks
Luxemburg : : ?Luksemburg


===Compound names===
===Compound names===
Some are formed with "de", some without. Some appear in both versions: Mar Caribe and Mar de Caribe
====Type de X====
====Type de X====
Isola de ...
Isola de ...
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Isolas de ...
Isolas de ...
  Isolas de Mar de Caribe : Caribbean Islands : ?Isolas Caribe
  Isolas de Mar de Caribe : Caribbean Islands : ?Isolas Caribe ! also "la Mar Caribe"
  Isolas de Cook : Cook Islands : ?Isolas Cook
  Isolas de Cook : Cook Islands : ?Isolas Cook
  Isolas de Majel : Marshall Islands : ?Isolas Majel
  Isolas de Majel : Marshall Islands : ?Isolas Majel
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  Isolas de Mariana : Mariana Islands : ?Isolas Mariana
  Isolas de Mariana : Mariana Islands : ?Isolas Mariana


provinse de
Mar de ...
Mar de Alasca : Alaskan Sea : ?Mar Alasca
Mar de Azov
 
Deserto de ...
Deserto de Mohave
 
Montes de ...
Montes de Apalatxia
 
provinse de ...
  provinse de Scotia Nova : Nova Scotia : ?Provinse Scotia Nova
  provinse de Scotia Nova : Nova Scotia : ?Provinse Scotia Nova
statos unidos de ...
Statos Unida de America


====Type X====
====Type X====
Compare with Isola X, Isolas X
  Isola Man : Isle of Man
  Isola Man : Isle of Man
  Isola Natal : Christmas Island
  Isola Natal : Christmas Island
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  provinse KwaZulu-Natal
  provinse KwaZulu-Natal
  Mar Hudson
  Mar Hudson
Mar Atlantica
Mar Mediteraneo
Mar Caribe
Mar Pasifica
Mar Negra
  Lagos Grande
  Lagos Grande
  Lago Ontario
  Lago Ontario
  rio Ron
  rio Ron
Montes Himalaia
Deserto Atacama


===Capitalisation===
===Capitalisation===
First letter upper case
====First letter upper case====
  Isola X, Isolas X
  Isola X, Isolas X
Mar X


First letter lower case
====First letter lower case====
  la provinse KwaZulu-Natal
  la provinse KwaZulu-Natal
  la provinse de Scotia Nova
  la provinse de Scotia Nova
  la provinse Jiangxi
  la provinse Jiangxi
  la provinse Guangdong
  la provinse Guangdong
rio Ron


===Type names===
===Type names===
  Gujarat, un provinse de India
  Gujarat, un provinse de India
Gujarat is currently a state, not a province.
Gujarat is currently a state, not a province.
provinse : province, prefecture, state : !Greece had prefectures and provinces, ?provinsia
munisipa : municipality : ?munisipia
parocia : parish
distrito : district
stato : state
canton : canton
zona : zone :
zona de ora : time zone : !zona oral?
teritorio : territory : ?teritoria
impero : empire : ?imperia, like the other -ia
area : area :!areal defined as regional
?region->not defined
Class name for an [[administrative territorial entity]] derived from a title:
xec -> xecia : sheikhdom
sultan -> sultania : sultanate
califa -> califia : caliphate
duxe -> duxia : duchy
conte -> contia : county, shire, earldom
han -> hanato : khanate : ?hania
prinse -> prinsipado : principality, princely state : ?prinsia
re -> rena : kingdom, dominion, realm; regime : !reia=royalty
===Other===
kh -> c
Abcazia : Abkhazia
Cazacstan : Kazakhstan
xec : sheik, sheikh, shaikh
xecia : sheikdom, sheikhdom
kh -> h
han : khan
hanato : khanate
==Personal names==
Mikhail Gorbachov : ?Mihail Gorbatxov
==Language management==
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2557990156/permalink/10156423106140157/
George Boeree
/Tobias: nos ia inclui multe parolas en la disionario cual nos judi es la plu importante.
nos no ia inclui parolas con traduis simple. per esemplo, nos no inclui "earl" o "graf"
car nos ave conte. ma nos no ave un problem con parolas spesial usada en testos spesial.
si on vole scrive sur la contes de england o la comtes de deutxland, on pote introdui la
parolas usada en acel linguas en tu testo. no problem! la mesma aplica a "governiia",
"praefectus", "praefectura", "despotes", "despotaton", o otra transcrives. la parolas cual
nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu, ma me vole serti ce
tu ave la libre per usa parolas cual tu prefere. aora, esta debate deveni fatigante e anoiante.
esta paje de facebook es intendeda per diverti e plase se membros. pas! - jorj/
Tobias Conradi
/parolas cual nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu/ -
I provided an explicit explanation why using X for X *and* Y could lead to a disaster.
From science I am used to attack bad ideas, to make better ideas appear. If the page is not
meant for improving LFN by showing its weaknesses, but is meant for the enjoyment of *some*
members of this group, then please state this highly visible so people don't waste their time.

Latest revision as of 2015-11-05T20:47:34

franses, italian, portuges, espaniol, catalan

Geographic names

See also Lingua Franca Nova administrative territorial entity class name

Examples taken from http://elefen.org/disionario/disionario.txt

lfn : eng : comment
Prusen : Prussia : Why Prusen? Does any of the source languages have this?
Isolas Falkland : Falkland Islands : ?Isolas Malvinas
Port-au-Prince : Port-au-Prince : ?speak as /prinke/
Rio de Colorado : Colorado River : ?Rio Colorado - none of the source languages uses "de"

Graphems not in alphabet

q

Urumqi

w

San Lawrence
Newfoundland
KwaZulu-Natal : KvaZulu-Natal

sh

Shanxi

Graphemes with uncommon application

Marx : : ?Marks
Luxemburg : : ?Luksemburg

Compound names

Some are formed with "de", some without. Some appear in both versions: Mar Caribe and Mar de Caribe

Type de X

Isola de ...

Isola de Er : Ireland : Isola Er
Isola de Marajo : Marajó : Isola Marajo
Isola de Margarita : Margarita Island : Isola Margarita
Isola de Baffin : Baffin Island : Isola Baffin

Isolas de ...

Isolas de Mar de Caribe : Caribbean Islands : ?Isolas Caribe ! also "la Mar Caribe"
Isolas de Cook : Cook Islands : ?Isolas Cook
Isolas de Majel : Marshall Islands : ?Isolas Majel
Isolas de Marcesas : Marquesas Islands : ?Isolas Marcesas
Isolas de Mariana : Mariana Islands : ?Isolas Mariana

Mar de ...

Mar de Alasca : Alaskan Sea : ?Mar Alasca
Mar de Azov

Deserto de ...

Deserto de Mohave

Montes de ...

Montes de Apalatxia

provinse de ...

provinse de Scotia Nova : Nova Scotia : ?Provinse Scotia Nova

statos unidos de ...

Statos Unida de America

Type X

Isola Man : Isle of Man
Isola Natal : Christmas Island
Isola Pascual : Easter Island, Rapa Nui
Isolas Baleare : Balearic Islands
Isolas Solomon : Solomon Islands
Isolas Virjin : Virgin Islands
provinse KwaZulu-Natal
Mar Hudson
Mar Atlantica
Mar Mediteraneo
Mar Caribe
Mar Pasifica
Mar Negra
Lagos Grande
Lago Ontario
rio Ron
Montes Himalaia
Deserto Atacama

Capitalisation

First letter upper case

Isola X, Isolas X
Mar X

First letter lower case

la provinse KwaZulu-Natal
la provinse de Scotia Nova
la provinse Jiangxi
la provinse Guangdong
rio Ron

Type names

Gujarat, un provinse de India

Gujarat is currently a state, not a province.

provinse : province, prefecture, state : !Greece had prefectures and provinces, ?provinsia
munisipa : municipality : ?munisipia
parocia : parish
distrito : district
stato : state
canton : canton
zona : zone : 
zona de ora : time zone : !zona oral?
teritorio : territory : ?teritoria
impero : empire : ?imperia, like the other -ia
area : area :!areal defined as regional
?region->not defined

Class name for an administrative territorial entity derived from a title:

xec -> xecia : sheikhdom
sultan -> sultania : sultanate
califa -> califia : caliphate
duxe -> duxia : duchy
conte -> contia : county, shire, earldom
han -> hanato : khanate : ?hania
prinse -> prinsipado : principality, princely state : ?prinsia
re -> rena : kingdom, dominion, realm; regime : !reia=royalty

Other

kh -> c

Abcazia : Abkhazia
Cazacstan : Kazakhstan
xec : sheik, sheikh, shaikh
xecia : sheikdom, sheikhdom

kh -> h

han : khan
hanato : khanate

Personal names

Mikhail Gorbachov : ?Mihail Gorbatxov

Language management

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2557990156/permalink/10156423106140157/

George Boeree
/Tobias: nos ia inclui multe parolas en la disionario cual nos judi es la plu importante. 
nos no ia inclui parolas con traduis simple. per esemplo, nos no inclui "earl" o "graf" 
car nos ave conte. ma nos no ave un problem con parolas spesial usada en testos spesial. 
si on vole scrive sur la contes de england o la comtes de deutxland, on pote introdui la 
parolas usada en acel linguas en tu testo. no problem! la mesma aplica a "governiia", 
"praefectus", "praefectura", "despotes", "despotaton", o otra transcrives. la parolas cual 
nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu, ma me vole serti ce 
tu ave la libre per usa parolas cual tu prefere. aora, esta debate deveni fatigante e anoiante. 
esta paje de facebook es intendeda per diverti e plase se membros. pas! - jorj/
Tobias Conradi 
/parolas cual nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu/ - 
I provided an explicit explanation why using X for X *and* Y could lead to a disaster. 
From science I am used to attack bad ideas, to make better ideas appear. If the page is not 
meant for improving LFN by showing its weaknesses, but is meant for the enjoyment of *some* 
members of this group, then please state this highly visible so people don't waste their time.