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==Geographic names== | ==Geographic names== | ||
See also [[Lingua Franca Nova administrative territorial entity class name]] | |||
Examples taken from http://elefen.org/disionario/disionario.txt | Examples taken from http://elefen.org/disionario/disionario.txt | ||
lfn : eng : comment | lfn : eng : comment | ||
Prusen : Prussia : Why Prusen? Does any of the source languages have this? | Prusen : Prussia : Why Prusen? Does any of the source languages have this? | ||
Isolas Falkland : Falkland Islands : ?Isolas Malvinas | |||
Port-au-Prince : Port-au-Prince : ?speak as /prinke/ | |||
Rio de Colorado : Colorado River : ?Rio Colorado - none of the source languages uses "de" | |||
===Graphems not in alphabet=== | ===Graphems not in alphabet=== | ||
q | ====q==== | ||
Urumqi | Urumqi | ||
w | ====w==== | ||
San Lawrence | San Lawrence | ||
Newfoundland | Newfoundland | ||
KwaZulu-Natal : KvaZulu-Natal | KwaZulu-Natal : KvaZulu-Natal | ||
sh | ====sh==== | ||
Shanxi | Shanxi | ||
===Graphemes with uncommon application=== | |||
Marx : : ?Marks | |||
Luxemburg : : ?Luksemburg | |||
===Compound names=== | ===Compound names=== | ||
Some are formed with "de", some without. Some appear in both versions: Mar Caribe and Mar de Caribe | |||
====Type de X==== | ====Type de X==== | ||
Isola de ... | Isola de ... | ||
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Isolas de ... | Isolas de ... | ||
Isolas de Mar de Caribe : Caribbean Islands : ?Isolas Caribe | Isolas de Mar de Caribe : Caribbean Islands : ?Isolas Caribe ! also "la Mar Caribe" | ||
Isolas de Cook : Cook Islands : ?Isolas Cook | Isolas de Cook : Cook Islands : ?Isolas Cook | ||
Isolas de Majel : Marshall Islands : ?Isolas Majel | Isolas de Majel : Marshall Islands : ?Isolas Majel | ||
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Isolas de Mariana : Mariana Islands : ?Isolas Mariana | Isolas de Mariana : Mariana Islands : ?Isolas Mariana | ||
provinse de | Mar de ... | ||
Mar de Alasca : Alaskan Sea : ?Mar Alasca | |||
Mar de Azov | |||
Deserto de ... | |||
Deserto de Mohave | |||
Montes de ... | |||
Montes de Apalatxia | |||
provinse de ... | |||
provinse de Scotia Nova : Nova Scotia : ?Provinse Scotia Nova | provinse de Scotia Nova : Nova Scotia : ?Provinse Scotia Nova | ||
statos unidos de ... | |||
Statos Unida de America | |||
====Type X==== | ====Type X==== | ||
Isola Man : Isle of Man | Isola Man : Isle of Man | ||
Isola Natal : Christmas Island | Isola Natal : Christmas Island | ||
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provinse KwaZulu-Natal | provinse KwaZulu-Natal | ||
Mar Hudson | Mar Hudson | ||
Mar Atlantica | |||
Mar Mediteraneo | |||
Mar Caribe | |||
Mar Pasifica | |||
Mar Negra | |||
Lagos Grande | Lagos Grande | ||
Lago Ontario | Lago Ontario | ||
rio Ron | rio Ron | ||
Montes Himalaia | |||
Deserto Atacama | |||
===Capitalisation=== | ===Capitalisation=== | ||
First letter upper case | ====First letter upper case==== | ||
Isola X, Isolas X | Isola X, Isolas X | ||
Mar X | |||
First letter lower case | ====First letter lower case==== | ||
la provinse KwaZulu-Natal | la provinse KwaZulu-Natal | ||
la provinse de Scotia Nova | la provinse de Scotia Nova | ||
la provinse Jiangxi | la provinse Jiangxi | ||
la provinse Guangdong | la provinse Guangdong | ||
rio Ron | |||
===Type names=== | ===Type names=== | ||
Gujarat, un provinse de India | Gujarat, un provinse de India | ||
Gujarat is currently a state, not a province. | Gujarat is currently a state, not a province. | ||
provinse : province, prefecture, state : !Greece had prefectures and provinces, ?provinsia | |||
munisipa : municipality : ?munisipia | |||
parocia : parish | |||
distrito : district | |||
stato : state | |||
canton : canton | |||
zona : zone : | |||
zona de ora : time zone : !zona oral? | |||
teritorio : territory : ?teritoria | |||
impero : empire : ?imperia, like the other -ia | |||
area : area :!areal defined as regional | |||
?region->not defined | |||
Class name for an [[administrative territorial entity]] derived from a title: | |||
xec -> xecia : sheikhdom | |||
sultan -> sultania : sultanate | |||
califa -> califia : caliphate | |||
duxe -> duxia : duchy | |||
conte -> contia : county, shire, earldom | |||
han -> hanato : khanate : ?hania | |||
prinse -> prinsipado : principality, princely state : ?prinsia | |||
re -> rena : kingdom, dominion, realm; regime : !reia=royalty | |||
===Other=== | |||
kh -> c | |||
Abcazia : Abkhazia | |||
Cazacstan : Kazakhstan | |||
xec : sheik, sheikh, shaikh | |||
xecia : sheikdom, sheikhdom | |||
kh -> h | |||
han : khan | |||
hanato : khanate | |||
==Personal names== | |||
Mikhail Gorbachov : ?Mihail Gorbatxov | |||
==Language management== | |||
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2557990156/permalink/10156423106140157/ | |||
George Boeree | |||
/Tobias: nos ia inclui multe parolas en la disionario cual nos judi es la plu importante. | |||
nos no ia inclui parolas con traduis simple. per esemplo, nos no inclui "earl" o "graf" | |||
car nos ave conte. ma nos no ave un problem con parolas spesial usada en testos spesial. | |||
si on vole scrive sur la contes de england o la comtes de deutxland, on pote introdui la | |||
parolas usada en acel linguas en tu testo. no problem! la mesma aplica a "governiia", | |||
"praefectus", "praefectura", "despotes", "despotaton", o otra transcrives. la parolas cual | |||
nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu, ma me vole serti ce | |||
tu ave la libre per usa parolas cual tu prefere. aora, esta debate deveni fatigante e anoiante. | |||
esta paje de facebook es intendeda per diverti e plase se membros. pas! - jorj/ | |||
Tobias Conradi | |||
/parolas cual nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu/ - | |||
I provided an explicit explanation why using X for X *and* Y could lead to a disaster. | |||
From science I am used to attack bad ideas, to make better ideas appear. If the page is not | |||
meant for improving LFN by showing its weaknesses, but is meant for the enjoyment of *some* | |||
members of this group, then please state this highly visible so people don't waste their time. |
Latest revision as of 2015-11-05T20:47:34
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Geographic names
See also Lingua Franca Nova administrative territorial entity class name
Examples taken from http://elefen.org/disionario/disionario.txt
lfn : eng : comment Prusen : Prussia : Why Prusen? Does any of the source languages have this? Isolas Falkland : Falkland Islands : ?Isolas Malvinas Port-au-Prince : Port-au-Prince : ?speak as /prinke/ Rio de Colorado : Colorado River : ?Rio Colorado - none of the source languages uses "de"
Graphems not in alphabet
q
Urumqi
w
San Lawrence Newfoundland KwaZulu-Natal : KvaZulu-Natal
sh
Shanxi
Graphemes with uncommon application
Marx : : ?Marks Luxemburg : : ?Luksemburg
Compound names
Some are formed with "de", some without. Some appear in both versions: Mar Caribe and Mar de Caribe
Type de X
Isola de ...
Isola de Er : Ireland : Isola Er Isola de Marajo : Marajó : Isola Marajo Isola de Margarita : Margarita Island : Isola Margarita Isola de Baffin : Baffin Island : Isola Baffin
Isolas de ...
Isolas de Mar de Caribe : Caribbean Islands : ?Isolas Caribe ! also "la Mar Caribe" Isolas de Cook : Cook Islands : ?Isolas Cook Isolas de Majel : Marshall Islands : ?Isolas Majel Isolas de Marcesas : Marquesas Islands : ?Isolas Marcesas Isolas de Mariana : Mariana Islands : ?Isolas Mariana
Mar de ...
Mar de Alasca : Alaskan Sea : ?Mar Alasca Mar de Azov
Deserto de ...
Deserto de Mohave
Montes de ...
Montes de Apalatxia
provinse de ...
provinse de Scotia Nova : Nova Scotia : ?Provinse Scotia Nova
statos unidos de ...
Statos Unida de America
Type X
Isola Man : Isle of Man Isola Natal : Christmas Island Isola Pascual : Easter Island, Rapa Nui Isolas Baleare : Balearic Islands Isolas Solomon : Solomon Islands Isolas Virjin : Virgin Islands provinse KwaZulu-Natal Mar Hudson Mar Atlantica Mar Mediteraneo Mar Caribe Mar Pasifica Mar Negra Lagos Grande Lago Ontario rio Ron Montes Himalaia Deserto Atacama
Capitalisation
First letter upper case
Isola X, Isolas X Mar X
First letter lower case
la provinse KwaZulu-Natal la provinse de Scotia Nova la provinse Jiangxi la provinse Guangdong
rio Ron
Type names
Gujarat, un provinse de India
Gujarat is currently a state, not a province.
provinse : province, prefecture, state : !Greece had prefectures and provinces, ?provinsia munisipa : municipality : ?munisipia parocia : parish distrito : district stato : state canton : canton zona : zone : zona de ora : time zone : !zona oral? teritorio : territory : ?teritoria impero : empire : ?imperia, like the other -ia area : area :!areal defined as regional ?region->not defined
Class name for an administrative territorial entity derived from a title:
xec -> xecia : sheikhdom sultan -> sultania : sultanate califa -> califia : caliphate duxe -> duxia : duchy conte -> contia : county, shire, earldom han -> hanato : khanate : ?hania prinse -> prinsipado : principality, princely state : ?prinsia re -> rena : kingdom, dominion, realm; regime : !reia=royalty
Other
kh -> c
Abcazia : Abkhazia Cazacstan : Kazakhstan xec : sheik, sheikh, shaikh xecia : sheikdom, sheikhdom
kh -> h
han : khan hanato : khanate
Personal names
Mikhail Gorbachov : ?Mihail Gorbatxov
Language management
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2557990156/permalink/10156423106140157/
George Boeree /Tobias: nos ia inclui multe parolas en la disionario cual nos judi es la plu importante. nos no ia inclui parolas con traduis simple. per esemplo, nos no inclui "earl" o "graf" car nos ave conte. ma nos no ave un problem con parolas spesial usada en testos spesial. si on vole scrive sur la contes de england o la comtes de deutxland, on pote introdui la parolas usada en acel linguas en tu testo. no problem! la mesma aplica a "governiia", "praefectus", "praefectura", "despotes", "despotaton", o otra transcrives. la parolas cual nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu, ma me vole serti ce tu ave la libre per usa parolas cual tu prefere. aora, esta debate deveni fatigante e anoiante. esta paje de facebook es intendeda per diverti e plase se membros. pas! - jorj/
Tobias Conradi /parolas cual nos ajunta o no ajunta a la disionario pote pare "desastrosa" a tu/ - I provided an explicit explanation why using X for X *and* Y could lead to a disaster. From science I am used to attack bad ideas, to make better ideas appear. If the page is not meant for improving LFN by showing its weaknesses, but is meant for the enjoyment of *some* members of this group, then please state this highly visible so people don't waste their time.