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This case made it to Heise Forum and no matter what the facts are: | This case made it to Heise Forum and no matter what the facts are: | ||
* User Seigneur at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-Das-groesste-Eigentor/forum-276507/msg-24937810/read/ talks about an entity that in 1667 became a principality. But that is completely irrelevant, since the article in question has a time span tag with an end time before that. | * User Seigneur at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-Das-groesste-Eigentor/forum-276507/msg-24937810/read/ talks about an entity that in 1664 or 1667 (he contradicts himself with his quotes) became a principality. But that is completely irrelevant, since the article in question has a time span tag with an end time before that. | ||
* User Gibbon at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-Re-Qualitaet-liefern-und-auf-Algorithmen-und-Menschen-vertrauen/forum-276507/msg-24937815/read/ writes: "Dein Link ist hier der einzige Blödsinn." | * User Gibbon at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-Re-Qualitaet-liefern-und-auf-Algorithmen-und-Menschen-vertrauen/forum-276507/msg-24937815/read/ writes: "Dein Link ist hier der einzige Blödsinn." | ||
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Fürstenberg (principality) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fürstenberg_(principality) Fürstenberg was a county (German: Graftschaft) of the Holy Roman Empire in Swabia, present-day southern Baden-Württemberg, Germany.
In the Infobox of the article it says: 1218–1408
This is Wikipedia-nonsense. The first line of the article claims Fürstenberg was a county. But the article title contains the word "principality". But a county is not a principality and more specifically before 1408 there was no principality of Fürstenberg in the Swabian Circle.
Only in 1664 one line of the counts was elevated to the status of "prince"
The article used to be called "Fürstenberg (state)" but since there are many Fürstenberg that were a state, it was suggested 2011-01-19 to rename it to "Fürstenberg (county)". Idiots jumped in and hijack the move proposal, and renamed the article to "principality".
Why? User:Victor_falk wrote /Later elevated noble families like the Fürstenberg, Liechtenstein or Thurn und Taxis dynasties subsequently began to refer to their territory as a "principality" and assumed the awarded rank of a Prince (Fürst) as a hereditary title./
No proof given, that this happened anytime between 1218–1408.
User:Orderinchaos supports this nonsense with " per Victor above - makes the most sense here - we have to be careful re WP:OR, and that one can at least be verified" - Wao. In fact exactly the other way around. It could not be verified and is OR.
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This case made it to Heise Forum and no matter what the facts are:
- User Seigneur at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-Das-groesste-Eigentor/forum-276507/msg-24937810/read/ talks about an entity that in 1664 or 1667 (he contradicts himself with his quotes) became a principality. But that is completely irrelevant, since the article in question has a time span tag with an end time before that.
- User Gibbon at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/S-Re-Qualitaet-liefern-und-auf-Algorithmen-und-Menschen-vertrauen/forum-276507/msg-24937815/read/ writes: "Dein Link ist hier der einzige Blödsinn."