Wikipedia nonsense - County of Fürstenberg

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Fürstenberg (principality) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Fürstenberg was a county (German: Graftschaft) of the Holy Roman Empire 
in Swabia, present-day southern Baden-Württemberg, Germany.

In the Infobox of the article it says: 1218–1408

This is Wikipedia-nonsense. The county was not a principality.

The article used to be called "Fürstenberg (state)" but since there are many Fürstenberg that were a state, it was suggested 2011-01-19 to rename it to "Fürstenberg (county)". Idiots jumped in and hijack the move proposal, and renamed the article to "principality".

Why? User:Victor_falk wrote /Later elevated noble families like the Fürstenberg, Liechtenstein or Thurn und Taxis dynasties subsequently began to refer to their territory as a "principality" and assumed the awarded rank of a Prince (Fürst) as a hereditary title./

No proof given, that this happened anytime between 1218–1408.

User:Orderinchaos supports this nonsense with " per Victor above - makes the most sense here - we have to be careful re WP:OR, and that one can at least be verified" - Wao. In fact exactly the other way around. It could not be verified and is OR.

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This page made it to Heise Forum. A user Seigneur at

talks about an entity that in 1667 became a principality. But that is completely irrelevant, since the article in question has a time span tag with an end time before that.