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###es ist nicht nur ein Nachschubweg sondern mehrere... das erfolgt nicht nur über die eine besagte Straße ...das sind Feldwege das geht querfeldein  
###es ist nicht nur ein Nachschubweg sondern mehrere... das erfolgt nicht nur über die eine besagte Straße ...das sind Feldwege das geht querfeldein  
###von einer Einkesselung oder einer drohenden habe ich nichts beobachten können ganz im Gegenteil
###von einer Einkesselung oder einer drohenden habe ich nichts beobachten können ganz im Gegenteil
###Anschlag auf Krim: Eine Bestrafung Gottes

Revision as of 2023-04-30T08:58:09

2022-12

  1. 2022-12-22 https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/12/22/bakhmut-is-soaked-in-blood-as-eight-of-ukraines-best-brigades-battle-40000-former-russian-prisoners/?sh=7833b0b96f23
    1. /As the Bakhmut battle grinds into its eighth month and becomes increasingly urban, the Ukrainians probably have the advantage. “This type of combat is unlikely to favor poorly-trained Wagner fighters,” the U.K. Defense Ministry concluded./

2023-01

  1. 2023-01-13 Soledar https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/13/europe/russians-capture-soledar-intl/index.html

2023-03

  1. 2023-03-06 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64859780
    1. "Ukraine war: Russia's Wagner boss suggests 'betrayal' in Bakhmut battle"
    2. "The head of Russia's Wagner private army says it is not getting the ammunition it needs from Moscow, as it seeks to gain control of Bakhmut."
  2. 2023-03-07 https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/16/europe/bakhmut-wagner-yevgeny-prigozhin-intl-cmd/index.html
    1. "Battle for Bakhmut grinds down Wagner’s mercenaries and cuts their notorious leader down to size"
  3. 2023-03-12
    1. https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article244234517/Ukraine-Wagner-Chef-fordert-10-000-Tonnen-Munition-pro-Monat-fuer-Kampf-in-Bachmut.html
    2. https://www.rnd.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-schwere-kaempfe-in-bachmut-munitionsmangel-auf-beiden-seiten-YF3NCLYQQ6DPQIDOPCD52NJ5DY.html
  4. 2023-03-16
    1. https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/video244320137/Krieg-in-der-Ukraine-Geht-den-russischen-Truppen-die-Luft-aus.html
  5. 2023-03-17 https://www.politico.eu/article/zelenskyy-digs-in-against-calls-to-quit-bakhmut-us-western-allies-eu-russia-frontlines-valeriy-zaluzhnyy-kyiv-soledar-kupol/
    1. "Zelenskyy digs in against calls to quit Bakhmut"
    2. "Holding Bakhmut made sense while Russia was suffering far higher casualties, but the logic of slogging it out is now in question."
  6. 2023-03-18 https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-18-2023
    1. "Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigohzin is likely attempting to set informational conditions to explain the Wagner Group’s culmination around Bakhmut."
  7. 2023-03-19
    1. "Prigozhin creates pretexts to justify Wagner Group's inability to encircle Bakhmut"
    2. "ISW previously assessed that Wagner fighters are likely conducting opportunistic attacks on easier-to-seize settlements further north and northwest of Bakhmut as their ability to make tactical gains in Bakhmut itself diminishes, and Prigozhin likely seeks to frame these activities as securing flanks in preparation for Ukrainian counteroffensives."
    3. "The milblogger likely tried to rationalize the Wagner Group’s failure to envelop Bakhmut by setting the necessary conditions for the envelopment further away and farther out of the Wagner Group’s current operational capabilities. Prigozhin also claimed that Ukrainian forces have at least 19,000 personnel deployed within Bakhmut, likely an attempt to justify Wagner’s lack of progress within the city."
  8. 2023-03-22 https://rutube.ru/video/fccb77463a0de56569dce25c989524a9/
    1. South
      1. 7:34 UA says battle in Predtechine (east of Kostantinovka) https://www.google.com/maps/place/Predtechyne,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine,+85161/@48.5795236,37.919388,28699m
      2. 8:18 Wagner says from a forest west of Ivanivske they control way T 0504 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Predtechyne,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine,+85161/@48.5691128,37.8892971,11641m
      3. 8:50 Wagner attacks Ivanivske
    2. North
      1. 9:02 Wagner attacks Khromovo / Артёмовское
    3. analysis
      1. 9:15 Sanya assumes that when Prigozhin stated publicly that Wagner is lacking forces, he did that to prevent a withdrawal, and that Zelenskij before that almost ordered the withdrawal, but after the statement didn't order withdrawal, and that now attacks occur and the encirclement gets stronger.
      2. 11:00 in Bakhmut are some 10s of 1000 of soldiers
  9. 2023-03-22 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65036208
    1. "Ukraine war: Zelensky visits front line near Bakhmut as Russia targets cities"
  10. 2023-03-22 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-russia-war-bakhmut-drone-attacks-vhcbvk0cl
    1. "Zelensky visits Bakhmut troops as Russian airstrikes hit Ukraine"
    2. "President Zelensky visited troops near Bakhmut today as Russia bombarded Ukraine with missiles and drones."
    3. "Bakhmut, a town in the Donbas region, has seen some of the bloodiest fighting since the start of the war. The UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) said Ukrainian forces had recently launched a counterattack to the west of the town."
  11. 2023-03-23 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-23/putin-s-mercenary-prigozhin-shifts-focus-after-ukraine-setbacks
    1. Putin’s Mercenary Prigozhin Shifts Focus After Ukraine Setbacks
    2. Wagner founder seen shifting attention to Africa operations
    3. https://www.n-tv.de/politik/16-50-Bericht-Prigoschin-soll-Reduzierung-der-Operation-in-Bachmut-in-Betracht-ziehen--article23143824.html
  12. 2023-03-23 https://rutube.ru/video/8817d9f4a55ffdcd97f55c9ef8bee01b/
    1. Zelenskij only shown in hangar and hasn't been in Bakhmut
  13. 2023-03-24
    1. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/23/europe/bakhmut-ukraine-counter-offensive-intl/index.html
  14. 2023-03-26
    1. https://m.focus.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krieg-bericht-ukrainer-verlieren-in-bachmut-teils-80-prozent-ihrer-einheiten_id_189371298.html
      1. „Wir haben in der ersten Schlacht 84 von 100 Soldaten verloren“
    2. https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article244484350/Ukraine-News-Ukraine-meldet-Stabilisierung-im-Kampf-um-Bachmut.html
  15. 2023-03-29
    1. https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-zelenskyy-russia-putin-bakhmut-2334ec3a5b74d3cc3c4e012db71920e5
    2. https://eurasiantimes.com/ukraine-frustrated-over-defective-air-defense-system/
      1. "The eastern city of Bakhmut has been the site of an extensive and protracted battle between Ukrainian and Russian forces for the past seven months."
    3. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/29/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-putin-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant/
      1. /"The battle for Bakhmut today has already practically destroyed the Ukrainian army, and unfortunately, it has also badly damaged the Wagner Private Military Company," Yevgeny Prigozhin said in an audio message./

2023-04

  1. 2023-04-02
    1. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/02/surrounded-and-outgunned-ukraines-tank-crews-prepare-for-battle-of-bakhmut
    2. ca. 23:00 flag hissing
      1. https://twitter.com/Trollstoy88/status/1642643662264737792 : Evgeny Prigozhin: "April 2, 2023, 23:00: We hoisted the Russian flag with the inscription 'Good memory to Vladlen Tatarsky' and the flag of PMC Wagner on the City Administration building of Bakhmut. Officially, Bakhmut is taken. The enemy is concentrated in the western regions."
        1. NBC video without translation but including NBC comments and that they couldn't verify the claims https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYRgvnGedjE
  2. 2023-04-03
    1. https://youtu.be/M-TrHdtaQow
      1. ca 2:55 "der Kampf um Bakhmut begann im August letzten Jahres, umfasst sozusagen eine Frontlinie von ca. 40 Kilometern, und dort haben die russischen Streitkräfte auch ein Zehntel ihrer Gesamtverluste zu verzeichnen und haben insgesamt dort 600 km2 dort nehmen können"
      2. Salzgewinnung der Ukraine dort über 100 Jahre aktiv
      3. ein Bunkersystem das die Städte verbunden haben
    2. 11:12 https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Gibt-keinen-Hinweis-auf-militaerische-Einnahme-Bachmuts-article24030046.html
      1. /Dabei sei vor allem zu klären, ob sie auch militärisch erobert wurde, sagt der Politologe Thomas Jäger. Für diesen "wirklichen Erfolg" Russlands gebe es allerdings keinerlei Hinweise./
        1. Wagner hatte nur behauptet das Hauptverwaltungsgebäude erobert zu haben, nur darauf bezog sich deren Aussage zur Eroberung im rechtlichen Sinne. Dass noch nicht die gesamte Stadt erobert wurde, wurde ebenfalls mitgeteilt.
    3. 13:51 https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Kiew-zu-Bachmut-Russen-denken-sich-Siege-aus-article24030734.html
    4. 19:14 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/reuters/ukraine-mocks-russian-claim-to-have-taken-bakhmut--says-attacks-repelled/48413242
      1. /Kyiv scorned Russian claims to have captured eastern Bakhmut on Monday, saying its foes had raised a victory flag over "some kind of toilet" and that Ukrainian forces had repelled nearly 20 attacks along the city's front line in the last 24 hours./
      2. /Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner mercenary force spearheading the siege, said on Sunday his troops had raised a Russian flag on the city-centre administrative building even though Ukrainian soldiers still held some western positions./
      3. /"From a legal point of view, Bakhmut has been taken," said Prigozhin, who has previously made premature claims./
        1. when? And no other things to say regarding the claim here? Is the toilet in the admin building?
      4. /"Bakhmut is Ukrainian and they have not captured anything and are very far from doing that," Serhiy Cherevatyi, spokesperson for the eastern military command, told Reuters./
      5. /"They raised the flag over some kind of toilet. They attached it to the side of who knows what, hung their rag and said they had captured the city. Well good, let them think they've taken it," Cherevatyi added by telephone./
  3. 2023-04-04
    1. 18:24 https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Wenn-Putin-eskalieren-koennte-haette-er-es-laengst-getan-article24033284.html
      1. /Wenn die russischen Truppen aber Monate gebraucht haben, um bis zum Ortszentrum zu kommen, dann ist zu vermuten, dass es auch noch lange dauern könnte, bis sie den Rest der Stadt erobert haben, wenn sie es überhaupt schaffen./
        1. Monate? Wann fängt die Zählung an? Warum nicht Jahre, z.B. ab 2014?
      2. /Dass Russland es jetzt schon seit Monaten nicht schafft, die letzten Kilometer der Umfassung hinter Bachmut zu schließen, ist ein Zeichen für die Schwäche der russischen Seite./
        1. Oder Strategie?
      3. /Es sieht so aus, als käme ihr Angriff tatsächlich bei Bachmut zum Stehen./
        1. Es wurde gerade das zentrale Verwaltungsgebäude eingenommen, und der Angriff kommt zum Stehen?
    2. according to sanya vo floride
      1. the flag hissing by Wagner took place at https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bakhmut,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine/@48.5886389,38.0004504,200m/ that is southwest of Svoboda and Mira Street.
        1. the central place of the town is east to that place
      2. Wagner is fighting at the Bakhmut train station west north west of the central area https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bakhmut,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine/@48.5910687,37.9867868,239m/
  4. 2023-04-05 sanya vo floride
    1. telling yesterdays position of train station was a mistake, correcting to Bakhmut 1 https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BB+%22%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%82-I%22/@48.5951042,37.9984569,3586m/ and telling the other is Bakhmut 2
  5. 2023-04-07
    1. https://www.n-tv.de/politik/London-sieht-russisches-Vorruecken-in-Bachmut-article24039722.html
      1. /Kreml-Truppen wohl erfolgreich/
      2. /London sieht russisches Vorrücken in Bachmut/
    2. Telegraph https://youtu.be/l_avW0ZSK-s
      1. I've just spoken to a group of soldiers ... they found it hilarious that the Russians have been claiming that they have taken it, they said that's absolutely not the case, they just said the idea the Russians could even potentially take Bakhmut is hilarious and it simply won't happen, they are confident that they will have a victory soon enough
    3. https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-russia-gaining-ground-in-bakhmut-says-uk/a-65256996
      1. /The UK Defense Ministry said Russia has "regained some momentum" in the battle for Bakhmut./
      2. /Eastern Military Command spokesperson Serhiy Cherevatyi acknowledged, however, that Ukrainian troops were facing a "difficult" situation./
      3. /The MOD's latest intelligence briefing said that Russia had made more gains and "has now highly likely advance into the town center."/
  6. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/08/world/europe/bakhmut-battle-leaked-documents-us-war.html
  7. https://www.tagesspiegel.de/internationales/schlacht-um-bachmut-fur-das-letzte-atemrohr-der-stadt-bezahlte-die-ukraine-offenbar-einen-hohen-preis-9635420.html
    1. /„Am 25. Februar waren die ukrainischen Streitkräfte von den russischen Streitkräften in Bachmut fast vollständig eingekesselt“, heißt es./
  8. https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-forces-step-up-strikes-two-key-ukrainian-cities-2023-04-10/
  9. https://www.n-tv.de/politik/London-Ukraine-steht-in-Bachmut-unter-starkem-Beschuss-article24052720.html
  10. https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Die-Gefahr-der-Einkesselung-ist-nicht-sehr-gross-article24053843.html
  11. 2023-04-23 https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Selenskyj-verkuendet-neues-Sanktions-Paket-article24072786.html
    1. /Das schwer umkämpfte Bachmut ist inzwischen fast völlig zerstört./
  12. 2023-04-24
    1. https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Selenskyj-Koennen-Bachmut-unmoeglich-aufgeben-article24074160.html
    2. https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Selenskyj-haelt-es-fuer-unmoeglich-Bachmut-aufzugeben-article24075022.html
      1. /Kein Gebäude mehr unbeschädigt/
  13. 2023-04-26
    1. https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-russland-news-kaempfe-um-kontrolle-ueber-versorgungsroute-fuer-bachmut-a-e062f59a-97f6-4e86-851b-e23d62742092
  14. 2023-04-30
    1. https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Von-Einkesselung-nichts-beobachtet-im-Gegenteil-article24089272.html
      1. es ist nicht nur ein Nachschubweg sondern mehrere... das erfolgt nicht nur über die eine besagte Straße ...das sind Feldwege das geht querfeldein
      2. von einer Einkesselung oder einer drohenden habe ich nichts beobachten können ganz im Gegenteil
      3. Anschlag auf Krim: Eine Bestrafung Gottes