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Tobiasco: /* Conversion of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid */

2025-11-01T23:53:46Z

Conversion of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid

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	== Conversion of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==		== Conversion of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==
	=== Taginfo ===		=== Taginfo ===
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:SE:nvrid ~~as of~~ 2025-10-~~31: 2 042 and 2 034 (different) values~~		{\| class="wikitable sortable"
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/NVRID - ~~maximum~~ ~50		! Name !! Usage (2025-10-31) \|\| Usage start !! Usage end !! Usage maximum !! Usage note
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:NVRID - ~~maximum~~ ~ 1890		\|-
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:nvrid - ~~maximum~~ ~ 25		\| https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:SE:nvrid \|\| 2 042 (2 034 distinct values) \|\| 2025-10 \|\| - \|\| \|\|
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/lst:NVRID - ~~maximum~~ ~ 9		\|-
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/lst:nvrid - ~~maximum~~ ~ 145		\| https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/NVRID \|\| 0 \|\| ~ 2017 \|\| 2025-10 \|\| ~ 50 (~2018) \|\|
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/lst:ref - a strict subset of the values are NVRIDs, some prefixed with NR~~, see overpass results below~~		\|-
			\| https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:NVRID \|\| 0 \|\| ~ 2017 \|\| 2025-10 \|\| ~ 1890 (~2025-10) \|\|
			\|-
			\| https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:nvrid \|\| 0 \|\| ~ 2017 \|\| 2025-10 \|\| ~ 25 (~2020--~2023) \|\|
			\|-
			\| https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/lst:NVRID \|\| 0 \|\| ~ 2015 \|\| 2025-10 \|\| ~ 9 (~2022) \|\|
			\|-
			\| https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/lst:nvrid \|\| 0 \|\| ~ 2010 \|\| 2025-10 \|\| ~ 145 (~2020) \|\|
			\|-
			\| https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/lst:ref \|\| 3550 \|\| ~ 2010 \|\| - \|\| ~ 4200 (~2018)
			\|
			#a strict subset of the values are NVRIDs, some prefixed with NR
			#overall more than 2000 are NVRIDs
			#for values cf. [[#Overpass not cleaned-up]] and [[#Overpass data tracking]]
			\|}

	Snapshot https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=nvrid:		Snapshot https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=nvrid:
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	#2025-10-31 (https://archive.ph/hJjdY) : 2 042 ref:SE:nvrid, 12 old_ref:SE:nvrid 0 ref:NVRID		#2025-10-31 (https://archive.ph/hJjdY) : 2 042 ref:SE:nvrid, 12 old_ref:SE:nvrid 0 ref:NVRID

	=== Overpass ===		=== Overpass not cleaned-up ===
	# https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2eH9 - nwr(area.x)["lst:ref"~"^NR20[0-9]{5}$"];		# https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2eH9 - nwr(area.x)["lst:ref"~"^NR20[0-9]{5}$"];
	## 2025-10-31 (https://archive.ph/1jk6h) : 175		## 2025-10-31 (https://archive.ph/1jk6h) : 175

Tobiasco: /* Conversion of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid */

2025-11-01T23:52:27Z

Conversion of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid

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	##The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .		##The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .

	== ~~Conversation~~ of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==		== Conversion of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==
	=== Taginfo ===		=== Taginfo ===
	# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:SE:nvrid as of 2025-10-31: 2 042 and 2 034 (different) values		# https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref:SE:nvrid as of 2025-10-31: 2 042 and 2 034 (different) values

Tobiasco: /* Community Forum */

2025-11-01T19:35:04Z

Community Forum

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	###fjellrev:		###fjellrev:
	####ad hominem: "Take out a mirror" and other		####ad hominem: "Take out a mirror" and other
			##Mateusz Konieczny https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/proposal-to-convert-keys-lst-diarienr-lst-nvrid-to-refdiarienr-and-refnvrid/137365/25
			###"In such case I would encourage you to write to data@openstreetmap.org with brief explanation of problem"
			###"It was mentioned that some of proposed, or what worse performed, edits are clearly bogus if you know local language - so a short explanation to DWG would be helpful." - // Where did the word "bogus" appear before?

	=== Changesets ===		=== Changesets ===

Tobiasco: /* Changesets */

2025-11-01T06:11:19Z

Changesets

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	### reply: @Taya Snijder: Do you think that your reply answers the question, whether you have evidence? If so, can you link to that evidence that this edit here false under "automated edit"?		### reply: @Taya Snijder: Do you think that your reply answers the question, whether you have evidence? If so, can you link to that evidence that this edit here false under "automated edit"?
	### s/false/falls		### s/false/falls
	~~### reply: @Taya Snijder: What is the definition of "a clear community consensus" as used in the text of your warning?~~
	### (2025-11-01) reply: @Taya Snijder: What is the definition of "a clear community consensus" as used in the text of your warning?		### (2025-11-01) reply: @Taya Snijder: What is the definition of "a clear community consensus" as used in the text of your warning?
	### Taya Snijder (Data Working Group): I do not believe you are engaging in good faith discussion and will therefore not be responding to these question anymore.		### Taya Snijder (Data Working Group): I do not believe you are engaging in good faith discussion and will therefore not be responding to these question anymore.

Tobiasco: /* Changesets */

2025-11-01T06:10:26Z

Changesets

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	### 2017-10-29 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7625019/history/5 ref:SE:diarienr=511-2968-15 ref:SE:nvrid=2043766		### 2017-10-29 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7625019/history/5 ref:SE:diarienr=511-2968-15 ref:SE:nvrid=2043766
	## Discussion		## Discussion
	### 2025-10-31 warning by "Taya Snijder, On behalf of the [[OpenStreetMap/OSMF Data Working Group\|OSMF Data Working Group]]" - "Please stop mass editing these tags you have been editing or are planning to edit until a clear community consensus has been achieved. Ignoring this warning may lead to blocks being placed on your account."		### (2025-10-31) warning by "Taya Snijder, On behalf of the [[OpenStreetMap/OSMF Data Working Group\|OSMF Data Working Group]]" - "Please stop mass editing these tags you have been editing or are planning to edit until a clear community consensus has been achieved. Ignoring this warning may lead to blocks being placed on your account."
	### reply: @Taya Snijder: Please explain the basis for your "warning". In the forum the term "mass editing" wasn't used, now it is. What is "mass editing" and where is the policy that allows you to issue that "warning" here and threating an OSM contributor with a block?		### reply: @Taya Snijder: Please explain the basis for your "warning". In the forum the term "mass editing" wasn't used, now it is. What is "mass editing" and where is the policy that allows you to issue that "warning" here and threating an OSM contributor with a block?
	### Taya Snijder (Data Working Group): Mass edits are equivalent to automated edits in this circumstance.		### Taya Snijder (Data Working Group): Mass edits are equivalent to automated edits in this circumstance.
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	### s/false/falls		### s/false/falls
	### reply: @Taya Snijder: What is the definition of "a clear community consensus" as used in the text of your warning?		### reply: @Taya Snijder: What is the definition of "a clear community consensus" as used in the text of your warning?
			### (2025-11-01) reply: @Taya Snijder: What is the definition of "a clear community consensus" as used in the text of your warning?
			### Taya Snijder (Data Working Group): I do not believe you are engaging in good faith discussion and will therefore not be responding to these question anymore.
			### reply: @Taya Snijder: What does "these question" refer to? Are you aware of: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette/Etiquette_Guidelines#Expected_Behavior : Expected Behavior Act in good faith. It is surprisingly easy to misunderstand each other, whether online or in person, particularly in such a culturally and linguistically diverse setting as OpenStreetMap. Misunderstandings can easily arise when we are debating topics or when we are in a rush or distracted. Please ask the other person to explain before assuming that a communication was inappropriate or not made in good faith

	== Overpass data ==		== Overpass data ==

Tobiasco: /* Overview */

2025-11-01T03:57:24Z

Overview

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	==Overview==		==Overview==
	2025-10 in tags storing ~~the~~ nvrid the ~~keys were~~ changed, an URL formatter added in the Wiki Data element. Moderators interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by Taya Snijder "On behalf of the [[OpenStreetMap/OSMF Data Working Group\|OSMF Data Working Group]]".		#2025-10 in some tags storing a nvrid the key was changed to "ref:SE:nvrid"
			#2025-10-29 an URL formatter added to the Wiki Data element (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Item:Q23184&diff=prev&oldid=2913233).
	The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .		#2025-10-31
			##Moderators interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by Taya Snijder "On behalf of the [[OpenStreetMap/OSMF Data Working Group\|OSMF Data Working Group]]".
			##The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .

	== Conversation of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==		== Conversation of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==

Tobiasco at 2025-11-01T03:15:51

2025-11-01T03:15:51Z

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	==Overview==		==Overview==
	2025-10 in tags storing the nvrid the keys were changed, an URL formatter added in the Wiki Data element. Moderators interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by Taya Snijder OSMF ~~DWG~~.		2025-10 in tags storing the nvrid the keys were changed, an URL formatter added in the Wiki Data element. Moderators interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by Taya Snijder "On behalf of the [[OpenStreetMap/OSMF Data Working Group\|OSMF Data Working Group]]".

	The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .		The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .

Tobiasco: /* Overview */

2025-11-01T03:14:59Z

Overview

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	==Overview==		==Overview==
	2025-10 in tags storing the nvrid the keys were changed, an URL formatter added in the Wiki Data element. Moderators ~~and OSMF DWG~~ interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by OSMF DWG.		2025-10 in tags storing the nvrid the keys were changed, an URL formatter added in the Wiki Data element. Moderators interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by Taya Snijder OSMF DWG.

	The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .		The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .

Tobiasco at 2025-11-01T03:13:24

2025-11-01T03:13:24Z

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	==Overview==		==Overview==
	2025-10 in tags storing the nvrid the keys were changed, an URL formatter added in the Wiki Data element. Moderators and OSMF DWG interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by OSMF DWG.		2025-10 in tags storing the nvrid the keys were changed, an URL formatter added in the Wiki Data element. Moderators and OSMF DWG interfered in dicussions and a threat was issued by OSMF DWG.

			The thread "What to do in case of harrassement and threats by a member of OSMF Data Working Group?" was closed and unlisted https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-to-do-in-case-of-harrassement-and-threats-by-a-member-of-osmf-data-working-group/137506 .

	== Conversation of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==		== Conversation of different keys to ref:SE:nvrid ==

Tobiasco: /* Changesets */

2025-11-01T03:10:51Z

Changesets

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	### 2017-10-29 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7625019/history/5 ref:SE:diarienr=511-2968-15 ref:SE:nvrid=2043766		### 2017-10-29 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7625019/history/5 ref:SE:diarienr=511-2968-15 ref:SE:nvrid=2043766
	## Discussion		## Discussion
	### 2025-10-31 warning by "Taya Snijder, On behalf of the ~~OSMF~~ [[Data Working Group]]" - "Please stop mass editing these tags you have been editing or are planning to edit until a clear community consensus has been achieved. Ignoring this warning may lead to blocks being placed on your account."		### 2025-10-31 warning by "Taya Snijder, On behalf of the [[OpenStreetMap/OSMF Data Working Group\|OSMF Data Working Group]]" - "Please stop mass editing these tags you have been editing or are planning to edit until a clear community consensus has been achieved. Ignoring this warning may lead to blocks being placed on your account."
	### reply: @Taya Snijder: Please explain the basis for your "warning". In the forum the term "mass editing" wasn't used, now it is. What is "mass editing" and where is the policy that allows you to issue that "warning" here and threating an OSM contributor with a block?		### reply: @Taya Snijder: Please explain the basis for your "warning". In the forum the term "mass editing" wasn't used, now it is. What is "mass editing" and where is the policy that allows you to issue that "warning" here and threating an OSM contributor with a block?
	### Taya Snijder (Data Working Group): Mass edits are equivalent to automated edits in this circumstance.		### Taya Snijder (Data Working Group): Mass edits are equivalent to automated edits in this circumstance.